Season 5 episode 6 of the Thoth Hermes podcast features David Shoemaker talking not only about O.T.O. and A.:A.:
Dr. David Shoemaker is a clinical psychologist in private practice, specializing in Jungian and cognitive-behavioral psychotherapy. David is the Chancellor and Prolocutor of the Temple of the Silver Star. He has been a member of O.T.O. and a student of A∴A∴ since 1993, and he has more than twenty years of experience supervising students in these traditions. He is a Past Master of 418 Lodge, O.T.O. in Sacramento, having succeeded Soror Meral (Phyllis Seckler), his friend and teacher. He also serves as a Sovereign Grand Inspector General of the Order. David was the founding President of the O.T.O. Psychology Guild and a founding member of the Advanced Initiation Training team, and is a frequent speaker at NOTOCON. A consecrated Bishop of Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica, David led the team that developed the O.T.O. Pastoral Counseling Workshops.